Wednesday, June 17, 2009

SANHA, NIHT, ICSA...MJC

Salaams Dear Readers,

I have this nagging question: How does one decide as to what is Halaal & Haraam when our National so-called "Halaal" bodies are constantly fighting?

At some point a certain franchise / product is deemed Halaal by one organisation and the next its status has changed to Haraam, all because one body certifies it...and the other not

What are you views on this...?

PS no personal attacks on anyone, I just want your honest views on this matter!

13 comments:

Edge Of Where said...

Its a very good question that you ask. My friends and I often debate this very same topic. My argument is that we cannot follow all the bodies because then we wont be able to eat anything coz they all differ with each other. we should just choose one body to follow and stick to it ie. no changing when it suits us or whatever. that is what makes the most sense to me. Dont ask me how to make the choice though coz that can become tricky but I guess you should be able to identify with one of the bodies more than the others

Princess said...

EoW - thats a tough choice.

I have a friend who would only eat at a place or anything for that matter if it were certified by SANHA, proving to be difficult when we went out to eat at "Other" Halaal certified places...Hmm

Dreamlife said...

My general rule is: as long as one of the bodies certifies it, it's fine for me to eat.

It's too much trouble to go into details of which body is right, and the technicalities of each ingredient.

These bodies have learned people - specialists in the field - whose job it is to figure out what is Halaal and what is Haraam.

And i really do not want to get dragged into the political debates and personal agendas between organisations and individuals.

Let them bicker and fight all they want - it's not for me to get involved and take sides.

I do, of course, wish everything was unified - but because there's always diversity among people - even among people of the same religious group, i guess there will always be different bodies to do one job.

Whether you can trust these bodies or not - that's another issue. I wrote not long ago about the SANHA-Majlis chicken debate ( http://dreamlife.wordpress.com/2009/03/09/ ) - and that's a big issue too (not just chicken, but meat in general).

Anyway, it's confusing - but i try to keep it as simple as possible for myself by sticking to that simple rule: i just need one body to certify it and i'm ok.

When it's not certified, then u've gotta look at the ingredients. Those "E" numbers, especially, can be tedious. But u've gotta do ur research. It's ridiculous to carry a list around with u - but i've done that recently, cos i want to know if the stuff i usually get is ok to eat, in the absence of certification. (Mostly Cadbury products - which are not at all certified. Nestle, who supports Israel apparently, are certified...ironic)

KiLLa said...

Wow.. i can do a book on this.. BUt will leave u on a light note.

Why is the sweets aisle in Pick n Pay known as the Planetarium ??

Cos on every item u look u see stars and moon

P.S - Why didnt u enter my competition. I think u'd do well

Princess said...

@ KiLLa - you should do a post on it :) in true KiLLa style :)

Hmm I did not even think about entering... ;) maybe I will enter

KiLLa said...

U have till like friday.. ur choice..

Hmmm.. A post on halaal organisations.. Sounds interesting

M Junaid said...

as long as one of the four has certified the food, i am comfortable with that and i will eat it.

I hate the perception that sanha certified food is somehow 'more halaal' than the others

Zahera said...

Actually what i find disturbing is the number of muslims who are so unbelievably complacant about what they eat/consume and where it is coming from/who certifies it.

To be honest, i dont even like eating out as much thesedays cos im just not sure where my meat is coming from and whether it is halaal for me (im not making it haraam for anyone else! I have the doubt and so if i doubt it, it automatically becomes haraam for me). On a personal level i cannot bring myself to eat something just because SANHA or anyone else has put a stamp on it- moreso after the recent allegations around the whole chicken issue. SANHA chickens are haraam for me and i do not eat them. Neither does anyone in my family. I know it can be tedious to check E numbers aswell, like Dreamy mentioned- but if you checked what those e numbers are, some of it will just make you wana throw up.

I keep stressing this, but only because i think its essential for muslims to think about and give attention to what they are consuming. What we consume has an effect on our ibadah and imaan. Its not a trivial manner and lets be honest- youre hardly going to die if you give up something which you are unsure about in order to please Allah Ta'ala. Infact there should be so much pleasure in seeking that! SANHA and all the other bodies are not going to answer for us on the Day of Qiyamah- the onus is on us to also check and think like rational human beings! Its not about political agendas or who has it in for who- it is a simple case of being a thinking, rational sensible person and looking at what is put in front of you face. Unfortunately we just dont seem to care enough anymore... about anything, so why should food be any different.

Anonymous said...

Slm it is very pleasing to know that people are concerned regarding their food intake,as haraam food is a bearier between the acceptence of our duas and Allah.WE CANNOT SAY THAT "THEY WILL BE ANSWERABLE" as some people say music is permissible, this does not make it permissble.

I personally follow SANHA as i interact and rely on the scholars there. The way they do inspections is astonishing.
Rejecting and condemming other organisations is a grave sin as all are making effort 4 Allah.
The differences which are present are not due to income greed, but the principals and rulings(fatwas) which they follow eg. We might see sweets certified by MJC , but declared haram by SANHA, The reason is that the ulama at MJC regard gelatine as halaal(they are shafis,some hanafi scholars regard it as halaal) but the ulamaa at SANHA regard gelatine from non halaal animals as haraam.

A person ought to have convidence in one and follow it not choosing following ones desire, but for the sake of Allah.
Lastly regarding SANHA and Majlis, know well that SANHA does not make a cent on Rainbow chickens as it is certified by MJC and just inspects for the sake of the SANHA followers.SANHA is banged by majlis due to personal hatred for SANHA, Jamiat and Ml Bham.
May Allah forgive us and unite the ummah

M Junaid said...

mmm MJC certified gelatin. Yummy :D

FEIZAL said...

TO EAT HALAAL IS NOT A MINOR ISSUE. IT IS SERIOUS.BESIDES THE PUNISHMENT IN THE HEREAFTER, OUR IBAADAT AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS DEVOID OF BARAKAH.
ONE SHOULD DO HIS OR HER OWN INVESTIGATIONS.FIND OUT WHO TRULY IS NOT MOTIVATED BY MONEY AND IS SINCERE AND UPRIGHTEOUS.
MY PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS, THE BEST GROUP TO FOLLOW IS THE MAJLISUL ULEMA OF SOUTH AFRICA.

FEIZAL said...

GO WITH THE TRUTH
FOLLOW THE MAJLIS UL ULEMA P.E.

Anonymous said...

fuck halal and eat shit.

Halal doesn't belong in de world only and alone in mecca.